Mom's home, hide the beer [video]

[relativityspeaking]

I've got good news: Reinhardt and Brainy are both stable and safely tucked into healing pods. They're both expected to make full recoveries.

I figured I'd get that out there up front. The rest is going to get long, so it's split into parts.

[ooc: People can respond to the two parts of the briefing in the subthreads below.]

Comments

[thedreamisdead]

Yes or no. This is a point where the safety of others around you comes into question.

[It's not a joking matter. Not to her.]

[turntex]

whats that even supposed to mean
my inability to use guns is gonna hurt someone??
usually the opposite is true
you hear all kinds of stories about assholes shooting themselves or others in the foot but but not once have you ever heard a guy going oh fuck ny inability to pick up this piece of shit pistol physically injured me

[thedreamisdead]

Your inability to use any other kind of weapon. Guns are only one. Tasers, gas grenades, batons...

[If he's working to irritate her, it's working. However, she's also not letting it show in her voice.]

Someone drops a grenade in front of us. You can't use your powers for whatever reason, such as Washington negating everyone's powers. Are you capable of picking it up and throwing it away, can you not do it at all, or are we all dead because you haven't bothered to figure this out yet?

[turntex]

no shit i can just pick a thing up and throw it
just cant weaponize it
yall really seem to have trouble understanding the difference between holding a thing and equipping it huh
i guess i could throw a punch washs way for almost murdering us all like that but frankly i dont know why fistkind is even a thing since no one really has any problem without it
like that one seems to exist just to fuck over people who didnt know what they were doing when allocating their strife specibus

[thedreamisdead]

You're doing a lot of dancing around rather than saying that you don't know if the rule works in this universe.

[turntex]

thats the strider experience dude
theres a lot more dancing involved than people generally expect i know
you come in anticipating some cool dudes just chillin and throwing down some rhymes and insead find yourself on the set of dancing with the stars
front row is reserved for guests of the striders so take a seat and enjoy the show
ive got a number with natalie portman coming up and were gonna show the world that padme amidala knows how to bust a fuckin move

[thedreamisdead]

All I'm walking away with is the knowledge that you're unreliable.

[turntex]

everyone else figured that out day one
catch the fuck up

[meanmonkey]

Really, Dave?

[ She's not elaborating, but honestly, child, must you practically antagonize the woman? ]

[unrecovered]

And you'd be wrong. If Dave weren't reliable, we wouldn't have caught the Joker and we wouldn't have been able to rescue the veteran Legionnaires nearly as easily. He's competent, he's reliable, he's had my back in combat more than once and he's never let me down. Having the weirdest fucking conversations on Legion World doesn't negate any of that.

You should be walking away with the knowledge that this isn't your world, it doesn't play by your rules, and the team is stronger for that. You took the oath to be a Legionnaire, and that means playing by Legion's rules and working with fellow Legionnaires. The sooner you quit bitching about the fact that it's not the same as home, the better off we'll all be.

[Get your head out of your ass, America.]

[thedreamisdead]

You've hit the nail on the head. This place isn't the same as my home. It's also not the same as his. His rules might no longer apply. They very likely don't, given that no one here seems limited to a specific type of weapon. If it turns out that he can pick up something that's not a sword, like a taser or a tranq gun, then that's important information to have. Two people on this team have the ability to strip away powers, so how many times are we going to be going against people with the same abilities on missions?

But instead of giving a straight answer, he plays games. He might have proven himself to you, but I don't know him and I've seen nothing that tells me that I can trust him with my life.

[unrecovered]

So his track record and my word as a military veteran and a competent human being mean nothing to you. Good to know.

[thedreamisdead]

Look at it from my position. He's done little but be diverting and objectionable during this conversation, refusing to answer a simple question and playing up the obnoxious juve angle. Someone else I barely know comes up and says that, no, he's totally reliable and I can trust him with my life, despite his flippant attitude.

You'll forgive me if I have a hard time discarding my own experience and joining the choir of singing his praises in this case.

[unrecovered]

I'd prefer to look at it from a sane person's position. [Which is to say, neither of their positions, but hey, semantics.] You think he's an ass, fine, but he's been here for a while and he wouldn't still be a Legionnaire if he was incompetent. There's video footage of every fucking mission that every single one of us has been on. Refusing to take that into account is ignoring the evidence, Judge Beeny.

And your own experience includes going on a mission with Dave where he used his powers as part of our opening strategy, helped nonfatally take down the Legion of Supervillains, and participated in the mission's success. Are you going to ignore that too?

[thedreamisdead]

I never said he was incompetent. Just not reliable. There's no denying that he's effective, but he's also not professional. I can see that he's your friend, so your judgement may not be objective here, but I'd think that a military veteran would understand the value of projecting a professional persona and supplying information that could be mission-essential.

[meanmonkey]

Yes, we should certainly expect our children to behave as if they were veteran soldiers, and not children.

Your point about professionalism may have a certain amount of merit when it comes to interacting with civilians, and the UP may consider him and others his age adults, but the fact remains that he is young, and a certain amount of indulgence is necessary, and perhaps gentle reprimand if they are stubborn, instead of a declaration that acting their age makes them unreliable.

Unless you believe we should treat children as if they were soldiers, and expect them to act like it? Though I wouldn't think the Legion would want anyone with such a callous opinion.

[ Protective Mom Powers: ACTIVATE! ]

[thedreamisdead]

When I was his age, I was already on the streets, enforcing the Law. Most of my peers were still getting ready for their hotdog run, their Cursed Earth Evaluation Test. An attitude like that would've gotten me reprimanded at best and expelled at worst.

Admittedly, most juves couldn't be Cadets. That's why there's only a few thousand of us and a few million of them. But you'll forgive me if I hold the people I'm expected to trust in a fight to a higher standard than your average cit.

[turntex]

woah

[unrecovered]

It's the truth.

Humor me: have you tried equipping any weapon that isn't a sword while you've been here?

[turntex]

nah
wouldnt really wanna anyway
swords are kinda my thing
and besides i can stop time
im functionally faster than a speeding bullet
fuckin superman up in here and superman sure as hell doesnt need a gun

[unrecovered]

Still, we should see if the rules of your strife specibus apply here. It'll help with planning.