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Agent Washington ([personal profile] unrecovered) wrote in [community profile] thelegion2017-04-25 11:50 am

[Video | Filtered to Legionnaires Only] Technically, Parody Is Fair Use

[Wash looks a bit better than he did a week ago; turns out a successful mission and a plan for the future really do help.]

We've all seen the Legionnaire Legacies, and I'm pretty sure we're all tired of them. Well, Mirage is a genius, and she had an idea: we'll make fake ones. Use our Anywhere Machine to pull real footage, create fake footage to supplement it, write our own narratives, and broadcast them. It'll discredit the press, and it might keep them off our backs, because there's no reason to broadcast someone's past if it's already been done by someone else.

So. Who's in?
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[personal profile] rokketmann 2017-04-25 08:49 pm (UTC)(link)
You might want to rethink discrediting the entire press, as they and the people have generally been on the side of the Legion when we start running alternate missions.

[ Alternate missions such as stealing back stolen property. ]

But, if you want to run a Legion-approved vid in the same time slot, improve it with some interviews of other Legionnaires, donate the proceeds to a few different charities, I'm sure you'll find us willing to help. There's nothing wrong with healthy competition.

[ Almost as an afterthought, he turns the musing advice into a more direct hint. ]

There's a good charity that works with resettling people displaced from their homeworlds, like Xanthu. It's called Panspermia.

Edited 2017-04-25 20:50 (UTC)
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[personal profile] rokketmann 2017-04-25 10:18 pm (UTC)(link)
That's probably most of the press. They're used to being able to find records and interview neighbors. The new Legionnaires get more privacy than I'm used to.

[ Rokk isn't thinking in terms of wrong or right, but, although misleading - lying to - the general populace doesn't sit well with him, he doesn't think anyone's life should have to be laid bare for the holovids. ]

Why wouldn't it discredit the Legionnaire Legacies if you did both? The technology's worth a fortune. Distributing the holovids you make for free would probably make more people think they were faked than if the show was presented as a money-making competitor.
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superscholar: (hey videl do people lie on the internet?)

[personal profile] superscholar 2017-04-27 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
Actually, if I can jump in here. Why not just... make a better version of the Legionnaire Legacies, instead of faking it anonymously?

[ Gohan's not really super confident about this, because this isn't his wheel house. But Videl has plenty of experience with the media, and he's trying to come up with a not-dishonest alternative. ]

The problem is mostly that Legionnaire Legacies airs our history without our consent, and spins it into whatever they want, right? Then why not just... compete with them, instead of discredit them? We can use our own Anywhere Machine to show our memories, provide our own commentary, hold interviews to provide more insight, and even include character witnesses if we really need them.

Our show could get popular enough that no one would... really keep watching Legionnaire Legacies.

[ A pause. ]

... I don't know how viable that is, but I know some things about TV from my father-in-law.
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[personal profile] wherenoonegoes 2017-04-27 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
Y'know, I'd actually be interested in that. There's a lot of things that happened to me that look really bad out of context that Legion Watch would probably play up for drama. I don't mind people knowing more about me, I'd just like some control over how they learn it.
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[personal profile] wherenoonegoes 2017-04-27 06:25 pm (UTC)(link)
...actually, now that I'm thinkimg about it, why not do both? Show the blatant lies the exact same way as the true stories.
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[personal profile] superscholar 2017-04-28 02:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, I'm not... really interested in lying to the public. I just wanted to provide an alternative that lets us have control over what we feel like sharing.
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[personal profile] rokketmann 2017-04-27 08:40 pm (UTC)(link)
That’s more along the lines of my thinking. I don’t think we should put ourselves in the position of lying.

I know I’m new to the problem and it’s unlikely they'll profile me, but the Legion has to be better than what we’re against. Telling the good stories, that the Legionnaire is willing to share – if that’s not enough to beat them at their own game, I wouldn’t want the Legion's credibility on the line for my pride.

[ Rokk gets momentarily pissed. ]

Then again, I don’t like Legionnaires being victimized by Brainy's own tech.

[ But it fades back to quiet concern. He’s not trying to incite more than he has. ]

Doing it anonymously, like Wash wants, is still a good idea. It wouldn’t be seen as curated, but the interviews couldn’t be a part of it. I don’t know which way would be successful.
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[personal profile] superscholar 2017-04-28 03:01 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure which way would be successful, but I'm less interested in being dishonest and more interested in just... having more control over what I share with the public. There are some things I'm not comfortable sharing, and I've made that clear in the past, back when I was a teenager... [ Which is a conversation for another time. ] ... but I'm willing to share if I can provide context. And I think it'd be good for everyone if we were all on the same page, and supporting each other through this, which we can't do if we don't trust each other enough to share even the darkest parts of our lives.

... Having said that, I think the interviews would help a lot. If there's one thing I've learned from Videl's side of the family, is that the public loves being able to see their heroes.
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[personal profile] rokketmann 2017-05-05 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
I'd hope no one does anything without having a majority of Legionnaires in agreement. All is the ideal, but getting this many sentient beings to come to a consensus on anything is hard. Unanimity gets more difficult as things gets ... ethically murky.

[ He's trying to not use the word 'questionable.' ]

Videl's side of the family is right. [ He laughs to himself and shakes his head slightly. ] I don't think that's going to change. If I wasn't here, I'd be out there with them.
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[personal profile] superscholar 2017-05-16 07:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe someone just has to throw themselves out there. Prove that there's a better, more respectful way of handling Legion Watch.

[ A pause, as a thought crossed Gohan's mind. ]

... I'm gonna talk to them. In person.
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[personal profile] rokketmann 2017-05-18 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
The fans, or the Legion Watch staff?

[ Cos is interested, either way, but he's curious about which direction this will take. ]

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[personal profile] superscholar 2017-04-28 03:21 pm (UTC)(link)
[ Gohan furrows his brow, because this is absolutely not the approach he wants to condone. But he only has so much knowledge about how TV works, so he's limited in his approach. ]

I'm personally not a fan of being dishonest, if only because it'd make it worse if it were to somehow backfire on us. But even without that, I think I can argue some of these points.

The benefit of telling the whole story only lasts as long as it takes for us to refute that. I've seen this before, where everything is cleverly edited to make it look like a complete story, when it's really not. [ See: Cell Games. ] If we attach our faces to our version of Legionnaire Legacies, we can say that they're not telling the complete story, make our version something more real. And if some of us don't want to share parts of those stories, then we can share why, or just... I dunno, maybe provide some backstory as to why those parts are off limits. Something respectful.

Either way, we'd come across as the real story, not the sensationalized one. And if Legion Watch tries to air our darker pasts, they'll look irresponsible in the process, like they're just fishing for ratings. Granted, this would only work if we all trusted each other with our pasts, but...

Whatever we end up going with, I think a version hosted by the heroes everyone loves and respects would be infinitely better received than an anonymous one.
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[personal profile] superscholar 2017-04-28 04:44 pm (UTC)(link)
[ Gohan really doesn't wanna resort to dishonesty, but he could also be pragmatic. He could absolutely see that this was a good middle ground, he just didn't like the idea of lying to people that trusted them. ]

I don't really condone the anonymous one, but I can't really stop you. I would just rather put my energy into being honest, and continuing to protect everyone, than making something false, and having it blow up in my face and make protecting people harder.

[ Finally, a sigh. ]

I realize I'm being too optimistic for my own good here, but I can sleep better at night knowing I was honest. I'd rather do that than go to sleep wondering if tomorrow will be the day we get found out and discredited.
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[personal profile] saltsweet 2017-04-28 03:32 pm (UTC)(link)
This is the kind of thing we should've been doing from the beginning. Running our own pro-Legion media to show the public how we want them to perceive us, rather than just letting any paparazzi paint us with whatever brush they want.

I mean, we're the Legion for crying out loud. Don't we have a PR department?
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[personal profile] rokketmann 2017-04-30 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
We do have a PR department. I don't think they would've gotten rid of it permanently.

[ Rokk clears his throat a little. ]

I don't know about the past 18 months, but I've bumped into people from the PR department on Legion World before. I think they got a bigger staff when Lyle was in charge - I never recognize anyone.
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[personal profile] saltsweet 2017-05-04 06:51 pm (UTC)(link)
[ She throws up her hands in a half-relieved half-sarcastic kind of shrug. ]

Well at least we have one. But what are they even doing with themselves if our media representation is getting so bad that Legionnaires are taking things into their own hands?

[ Which she really, firmly does not agree with. She's absolutely not going to defend Wash's harebrained scheme. ]
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[personal profile] kingtyrantranger 2017-05-05 08:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Weren't they responsible for that charity calendar?
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[personal profile] rokketmann 2017-05-06 01:15 pm (UTC)(link)
[ The mild embarrassed look on his face is entirely due to looking up said charity calendar. ]

That does look like one of their ideas.

[ He also seems relieved, and is - because he wasn't here for that. ]

Videl, I think there's a number of Legionnaires who have gotten used to taking things into their own hands. I know that's true for the longer-serving members.
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[personal profile] saltsweet 2017-05-11 04:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Seriously?

[ Videl looks straight up baffled at the idea that it's typical for Legionnaires to handle their own PR. ]

I mean, sure, I've always handled my own PR, but I've never been somewhere that that's the norm.
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[personal profile] rokketmann 2017-05-16 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
Not all the time, but we're lucky enough to have confident, strong-willed teammates. I don't like making anyone give a statement that I'm not willing to give myself.
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[personal profile] saltsweet 2017-05-20 07:20 pm (UTC)(link)
That's a pretty egalitarian standpoint for a celebrity.

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